Grizzly stove....anyone have one ?

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The problem with things like this is that my normally unruffled and rational outlook on life is now visualising a post-brexit prepper’s wet dream, which of course demands that it is imperative that I purchase one of these or see my nearest and dearest perish slowly while some bastard sits warm, safe and humming Rule Britannia in their shed. :eek:
 

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Why do the stoves do that ? One wouldn't think that metal would crumble the way it does with these stoves.
Cookers last.
 

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So they are.
How about the old copper back boilers though ? the one in my brother's house is the same one that shone like a new penny when we moved into the house over fifty years ago, and he says it's still fine.

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So they are.
How about the old copper back boilers though ? the one in my brother's house is the same one that shone like a new penny when we moved into the house over fifty years ago, and he says it's still fine.

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Copper is less a less reactive metal in the presence of heat, oxygen, and moisture, and it’s an excellent conductor of heat. With water behind it it can’t get to melting point because the heat is quickly transferred to the water. You’ll know from your archeology that iron is generally more oxidised, hence copper being a more precious metal.
 

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I did wonder about the water, and copper preserves while iron rots stuff, unless it's oak I suppose.
Copper is really valuable to a certain point in history, but when malleable iron comes in, copper's relegated to the past. Iron shod ploughs broke open the land, more crops, more food, more children survive, and suddenly Northern Europe tholes the rampage of the Viking expansion. Before that it was the Romans, before that it was the Macedonians.....you get the idea.
Iron, cold iron, is master of them all....until we made steel :)

GOLD is for the mistress - silver for the maid" -
Copper for the craftsman cunning at his trade! "

" Good! " said the Baron, sitting in his hall,
But Iron - Cold Iron - is master of them all."
So he made rebellion 'gainst the King his liege,
Camped before his citadel and summoned it to siege.
" Nay! " said the cannoneer on the castle wall,
" But Iron - Cold Iron - shall be master of you all! "

Woe for the Baron and his knights so strong,
When the cruel cannon-balls laid 'em all along;
He was taken prisoner, he was cast in thrall,
And Iron - Cold Iron - was master of it all.

Yet his King spake kindly (ah, how kind a Lord!)
" What if I release thee now and give thee back thy sword? "
" Nay! " said the Baron, " mock not at my fall,
For Iron - Cold Iron - is master of men all."

" Tears are for the craven, prayers are for the clown
Halters for the silly neck that cannot keep a crown."

" As my loss is grievous, So my hope is small,
For Iron - Cold Iron - must be master of men all! "

Yet his King made answer (few such Kings there be!)
" Here is Bread and here is Wine - sit and sup with me.
Eat and drink in Mary's Name, the whiles I do recall
How Iron - Cold Iron - can be master of men all."

He took the Wine and blessed it. He blessed and brake the Bread
With His own Hands He served Them, and presently He said:
" See! These Hands they pierced with nails, outside My city wall,
Show Iron - Cold Iron - to be master of men all. "

" Wounds are for the desperate, blows are for the strong.
Balm and oil for weary hearts all cut and bruised with wrong.
I forgive thy treason - I redeem thy fall
For Iron Cold Iron - must be master of men all! "

'Crowns are for the valiant - sceptres for the bold!
Thrones and Powers for mighty men who dare to take and hold!'

" Nay! " said the Baron, kneeling in his hall,
" But Iron - Cold Iron - is master of men all!
Iron out of Calvary is master of men all! "
Rudyard Kipling
 
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