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There is also the fact that Plymouth is to become a freeport, and the boundaries encompass the whole of dartmoor..... why?
This means tax break industrial sites can be set up anywhere within these boundaries .
Apparently, lithium is to be found on the moors, ........go figure what the idea is, and why big business landowners are buying up chunks of the moors, setting up an innocuous business, and trying to get people banned... yes it may be conjecture at the moment, but I'm a suspicious sort of person and I can see how these big money people think. Its all in the bigger plan.
 

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There is also the fact that Plymouth is to become a freeport, and the boundaries encompass the whole of dartmoor..... why?
This means tax break industrial sites can be set up anywhere within these boundaries .
Apparently, lithium is to be found on the moors, ........go figure what the idea is, and why big business landowners are buying up chunks of the moors, setting up an innocuous business, and trying to get people banned... yes it may be conjecture at the moment, but I'm a suspicious sort of person and I can see how these big money people think. Its all in the bigger plan.
Freeports are a really bad idea for local people, great for corporations and Tory politicians.
 

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That by the book, no arguments approach looks a warning to BJ. No pissing about, no dangling threads, no recourse to later complaints.

But it is nutty. Since Cameron showed up twelve years ago, these people have driven civic standards down to such an extent that the resignation of the chancellor and chair of the party in power over a tax scam seems like nothing at all, business as usual.
 
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Bird flu being found in foxes and otters.
119 cases of humans catching it, though so far only one in the UK.

Sugar beet, neonicotinoids are to be allowed in the UK, though the eu still banned it. As we know it kills bees. Though the plan is not to allow flowers to be grown within a specified distance of the crop. Please tell the weed flowers they are not to seed themselves anywhere near a sugar beet field, and tell bees to keep away.
It's a totaly crazy idea, money orientated again, to maximise crops and cash. If they allow this, I shall be steering clear of pesticide soaked English sugar.
 

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It's a balance thing.
12 other countries in the EU have also applied for and been granted permissions to use the neocotinoids. All with oversight, all with restrictions.

If the belief that cane sugar is less damaging to the environment, and the people who labour to produce it, then it's a very blinkered view.

All modern agriculture, all monoculture, has issues.

I happily signed the protests to have the neocotinoids banned, but there is, as yet, nothing else to take the place, and the British crop lost 25% because of a fungus spread by aphids.
We need more things that eat aphids, but then, what eats them ?

Agriculture sustains us, but it upsets the 'natural' order to an enormous degree.

Buy local, try to influence best practice. Not much else we can do apart from starve.

I buy British sugar if at all possible. There are no insecticide residues within it. The beets are so processed that only the 'sugar' is left. They even make use of the debris, etc.,
They are now producing more sugar on 90,000 less acres than previously. Efficiency and sustainability are very much to the fore.
I think if they have applied for this licence, then it was for very real need.

https://www.britishsugar.co.uk/sustainability/our-approach/environmental
 

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It's a balance thing.
12 other countries in the EU have also applied for and been granted permissions to use the neocotinoids. All with oversight, all with restrictions.

If the belief that cane sugar is less damaging to the environment, and the people who labour to produce it, then it's a very blinkered view.

All modern agriculture, all monoculture, has issues.

I happily signed the protests to have the neocotinoids banned, but there is, as yet, nothing else to take the place, and the British crop lost 25% because of a fungus spread by aphids.
We need more things that eat aphids, but then, what eats them ?

Agriculture sustains us, but it upsets the 'natural' order to an enormous degree.

Buy local, try to influence best practice. Not much else we can do apart from starve.

I buy British sugar if at all possible. There are no insecticide residues within it. The beets are so processed that only the 'sugar' is left. They even make use of the debris, etc.,
They are now producing more sugar on 90,000 less acres than previously. Efficiency and sustainability are very much to the fore.
I think if they have applied for this licence, then it was for very real need.

https://www.britishsugar.co.uk/sustainability/our-approach/environmental
Ladybirds eat aphids.
 

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So how do we encourage more ladybirds.....and what eats ladybirds ?

Not that many years ago I used to see plenty of ladybirds, now it's very rare and a cause for remark and excitement.
Ladybirds have been decimated by feeding on aphids that have been poisoned by pesticides.
The moral is, use ladybirds for pest control, not pesticides!
It's staring us in the face, but you can't make as much money out of ladybirds as you can pesticides.:cautious:
 

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Find a way to breed them fast enough to counteract the fungus spreading aphids and I'm pretty sure farmers would take it on board though.

There's never an easy answer. Boycott sugar if you like, but British Sugar is at least as 'clean' and lower on insecticide use and pollution causing than the imported cane....and that's before you add on the transportnmileage pollution costs.
 

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Touching moment on Radio 4 PM programme this evening.

Evan Davies interviewing a very hard of hearing person whose house had been broken into to fit a British Gas smart meter.

Evan: How much hearing do you have, Sue?

Sue: How much … ?

Evan: Hearing.
 

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Touching moment on Radio 4 PM programme this evening.

Evan Davies interviewing a very hard of hearing person whose house had been broken into to fit a British Gas smart meter.

Evan: How much hearing do you have, Sue?

Sue: How much … ?

Evan: Hearing.

I can't even hear the doorbell if the living room or kitchen door is shut. I can't hear the phone ring either.
Finding someone breaking into my home would literally incite me to violence.
I am intolerant of bullies, and a home invasion is pretty close to the ultimate bullying.

Hell mend the blighter. He'll no' do it again. I can see the headlines now, "burglar brained with a girdle" :rolleyes: :ROFLMAO:
"Break in Bill booked",
You can do a lot of damage with a high heel or a brolly too.

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