A weird one....silver plated handles rotting

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I was decidedly not in the notion for last Christmas (surgery re sun damage a fortnight beforehand; six bits of me off to biopsy) so my annual polish and outing of the posh cutlery didn't happen.
It's mostly bits and pieces built up over the years. Nice stuff, but the 'using' parts are simply Viners Dubarry pattern. It's a set enough to sit twelve people comfortably.
The silver plate on the old pieces is sound; some of it was engraved with a C for Himself's parents when they married in the 1930's. Some of the older pieces are Victorian, and then there's stuff from my childhood. Baby spoons and pushers, that kind of stuff.

I cleaned out the kist under the stairs this morning and I pulled out all the coats that hang in there too.....found a knife in a leather sheath on a baldric under one of my jackets. The knife will need attention, but that's another query/story.
On top of the kist sits the cutlery canteens. I opened the big one and realised that there was something off about the handles of the knives tucked into the lid. The ones at one side had not only gone green but gone pitted, corroded, and I have no idea why.
Black I can understand, and would just clean and polish, but this stuff isn't cleaning, and the knife handles look ruined to be honest.

Any ideas why this has happened ? after years of storing them safely this way ? why are only the modern knife handles affected....my Mum's 1950's ones aren't marked at all apart from a blackening along the edges. The Victorian ones are fine, so far, but I'd like the reassurance that I know what's causing the damage and how best to stop any further decay.

I've checked the silver in the cupboard (teapots, milk, sugar, tongs, egg cups, napkin rings, candlesticks, centrepieces, those things) and they're fine. Could do with a polish, but not dreadfully in need.
It's just the modern Viners knives in the cutlery canteen that have rotted.
 

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Would like to see photos if you can Mary. I understand the words but I am struggling to visualise the damage. Not that I believe I would have the knowledge to identify the cause, you understand…
 

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I'll see what I can do. Himself's off for a walk and I'll pester him when he gets home.

I did think to ask him earlier, but I'm not in the habit of posting photos and just write stuff out.

I do think the photos would make things clearer though, and I'd like the collective's advice on the knife that has hung in it's sheath too long as well.

M
 

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yes, you've polished through the silver plating. they are usually plated on to copper plating on top of nickel plating.
They also have a strange filling which comes adrift and crumbles over time. They are stamped out of tin or steel before the plating process and blades are added and assembled
 
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yes, you've polished through the silver plating. they are usually plated on to copper plating on top of nickel plating.
They also have a strange filling which comes adrift and crumbles over time. They are stamped out of tin or steel before the plating process and blades are added and assembled

These knives have been used twice. They were very gently polished up with a silver jewellery polishing cloth, washed in fairy, rinsed and dried, and put back in the canteen.

No scrubbing, no heavy polishing, no duraglit, no tinfoil and washing soda.

I think if I'd used them often I wouldn't be quite so annoyed.....and why only one end of the rack ? there are nine damaged ones out of 25 of these
Viners knives.

I'm rather glad I hung onto the older 'fake ivory' handled made in Sheffield table knives. I can fit them in if this lot all goes off.

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