Lipsyl recipes

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The base is very simple.

I teaspoonful of shredded beeswax
5 teaspoonsful of edible oil

The beeswax needs to be broken up so that it'll melt easily (one of the tinfoil mince pie cups works fine to keep the mess contained if you don't have anything else, or a little glass jar, something that you can throw away if you don't want to have a waxy/oily thing to clean)
I use a set of children's stainless steel cooking pots and utensils from Ikea for stuff like this, but I do a fair bit. There's no need, just mind that getting wax and oil out of something isn't all that straightforward.
I prefer almond oil, but sunflower or veg oil is fine. Olive is nice but it has it's own distinct 'flavour'.

Temperature matters. Ideally you want both the oil and wax raised to the same temperature so that they'll blend together without lumps forming. If you use a glass jar, and something like a clean coffee stirrer or lollipop stick, or even a bit of bamboo skewer, then the two can be put together into the jar/cup and that put into a pot with some hot water. Put it on a low heat and watch.
Oil is always better not overheated, but it needs to reach the same melting point as the wax.
Generally I heat the wax and the oil seperately, but that makes more stuff to clean up. For a really small quantity like this then all in one will work fine.

Once the wax melts and the oil successfully mixes in easily, the jar is removed from the heat. Stir occasionally as it cools. If you're using a small jar you can put it into colder water to speed up the cooling and setting.

It's at this point though, before it's set, that you can add other oils or flavourings or colours.
It takes tiny amounts to add to this sort of quantity. Three drops of peppermint oil is ample, one drop of food colouring is plenty, kind of thing.

There is another aspect to it. It can be made using enforced oils. Oils in which plant material, like comfrey roots, or meadowsweet roots, have been gently warmed and left to soak. This extracts the stuff that makes those oils really, really helpful.
Meadowsweet done this way becomes a topical analgesic, very good on cracked hands and lips. Comfrey is excellent as a hand cream, a gentle emollient. Calendula petals soaked in oil again enrich it and it's really good on the skin.

Meadowfoam oil makes a really good emollient, one of the best, while neem makes an anti-insectical one. I'm not fond of the neem smell though, and much prefer our own bog myrtle, the Gale.

It's also how birch oil can be added to make the smudge stuff that's anti-mozzie and anti-midge :cool:

Simple stuff this, but effective :D

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Thanks, M.

Lipsyl famously changed their recipe some years ago. I think there was something that became illegal in the mix which they took out. Or, maybe they added sunblock. Anyway, the taste changed. I used to get such a kick of physical nostalgia when applying it. I still have an old one somewhere.
 
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There's a lot of paraffin oil/vaseline used in lipsyls. It's stable, it doesn't rot, doesn't encourage mould, etc.,

Mine is stable, but the oil used can change the taste, the keeping quality.
Mostly I use almond oil, but plain straightforward sunflower oil is very good, so is olive even if it does have a distinct taste.
I still prefer the almond though. I do like the nut butters. Shea is lovely, and I like a few drops of rose oil in my own mixture.
I sometimes add the contents of a VitE capsule to my mix, it's good stuff, and good on the skin. Same withe evening primrose.

My 'basic recipe' is very forgiving. If it's a bitter cold winter then I add a little more oil, for summer I might add a little more beeswax.
I like adding a little honey to mine too.

It keeps well, but pour or spoon it into small tubs. There are dozens of offerings on eBay of small screw top tubs or tins, and they will wash out and be re-useable, so not a great expense.
The metal ones are best for the birch tar mixtures though, the stuff affects the plastic the way nutmeg does.

A lot of the old cosmetics used Benzoin as a preservative, but it's been widely denounced and contraindicated. I don't know if that's the change in your recipe though.

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It is 0C here but will drop to -15C at some point during the day. I think I'd like to be outside to experience that. I am currently running a grapefruit flavoured ChapStick for the purpose. It's OK. I did see that Carmex stuff in stick-form once but didn't buy several as I ordinarily would. Reminds me of regular trips to NewYork in the early 2000s. Usually it's in little white jars with a yellow cap. Still, there's the internet.

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It is 0C here but will drop to -15C at some point during the day. I think I'd like to be outside to experience that. I am currently running a grapefruit flavoured ChapStick for the purpose. It's OK. I did see that Carmex stuff in stick-form once but didn't buy several as I ordinarily would. Reminds me of regular trips to NewYork in the early 2000s. Usually it's in little white jars with a yellow cap. Still, there's the internet.

(Is this the sort of thread that needs pics?)

https://www.amazon.ca/Carmex-Classic-Balm-Original-Stick/dp/B07R6YB89H
 

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Okay, I wouldn't put that on my lips. I don't get on with camphor.
The ingredients are pretty commonplace for commercially produced chapsticks.

Camphor is a nerve stimulator, and it supposedly helps soothe itching and pain. The mineral wax is the base.
The lanolin and the liquid paraffin (mineral oil) are used as the emollient, help to extend the 'base'. The cocoa butter (always looks good on an ingredient list, but it's just another moisturiser, one that tastes good) is mixed into that with the flavouring and the mint. The salicylic acid is the other pain reliever but it also sheds skin (it's used to remove hard skin on feet, skin tags, etc.,) If they've put it into the Inactive ingredients bit though, why bother ? well, it's still going to do it's stuff, it's just not a major player being even less in % than the menthol which needs miniscule quantities.
The phenol is a disinfectant, phenolic acid. It will 'cool' the skin, stopping you feel the pain of a cracked lip or cold sore. It also dries and again helps shed dry skin.

I haven't used this stuff, don't have any experience of it, but from the ingredients list I think it would moisturise, and soothe, but help peel off dry skin and damaged tissue. It would help give the appearance of health. Slightly tingly but not sore. Might leave your lips very thin and exposed though if used constantly.

Does that mesh with your experience of it ?
 

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Pretty much. It’s good stuff on split and painful lips, even cracked skin on fingers and hands. Not as effective as Blistex on the pesky splits that don’t seem to heal, but definitely the most effective lip balm I know.
 
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